lunes, 8 de diciembre de 2008

Religion: Organizing the world


One of the most profound differences between ancient Egypt and our modern world is the way we perceive our universe and how its many parts work and interacts .

Read the article "Religion: Organizing the World" and answer the following questions. As always, make sure you include the page number where you found the answer/fact for every question. Questions are due in my email by today and on the blog on by tonight by 10pm. Comments are due by tomorrow (12.9.08) at 10pm.

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.

50 comentarios:

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Herodotus siad that Egyptians were "religious to excess" because they had a god or goddess for every occassion, for every little thing.
Sometimes gods were combined, as well, to create newer gods or complex gods. And everything happened because of a god or goddess.
The rain, for example, we have scientifically proven- but the Egyptians hadn't. Therefore, they used a god to explain why it rained.
[Answers found on page 1.]

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
The Egyptians basically saw the world how we see it today. Skies, waters, the sun, the moon, the stars, etcetera. However, as far as
the reasons the sun rose and fell or the sky ended and began where it did were completely different than our views today.
The sky was the edge of the "eternal waters", space the "opposite world" where hideous creatures and damned souls lived. A paralell
world of sort. For every action, for every little thing of every day, there was a reason behind it- and the Egyptians did not
questions any of their own reasonings. They just simply were corrent.
[Answers found on page 2.]

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
Eight original gods existed in the "eternal waters" of Nun; it was a time of infinite nothingness: darkness. Out of the void that was
their world arose Atum, who proceeded to crate a male and a female god/goddess. They were known as Shu, who represented air, and
Tefnut, who represented moisture. Shu and Tefnut created Geb (who represented Earth) and Nut (who represented the sky). And in turn,
Geb and Nut created Osiris and Isis, along with Seth and Nephthys. This early group of gods was known as the Ennead.
[Answers found on page 3.]

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
In general, no, the Egyptians were not monotheistic: they had many, many gods that they worshipped. However, at one point in their
history, the Egyptians did have an object and a god that they worshipped as "supreme". They were known as the sun-disk and Aten
respectively.
[Answers found on page 4.]

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
In ancient Egypt, there was a priestly order. The pharaoh played the role of the "high priest" with many other priests below him. As
the king, the pharoah believed that, in order to keep complete peace in the world, he had to, with the aid of many others, give service
to the many gods that they had. And in theory, the pharaoh was supposed to conduct the daily temple rituals. However, because (s)he
could only be in one place at any one time, there were many who conducted these ceremonies all around Egypt as well.
I think that the Christian pastors and Egyptian pharaoh/priests have a lot in common. Because there isn't just a single Christian area
in the world, there are many pastors peppered throughout as to continue to spread the word of God.
[Answers found on page 5.]

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?

Herodotus said that because the Egyptians didn’t need to prove anything with physical evidence. There was a god for everything that was behind everything. They believed a god did it and didn’t need other forms of physical proof like we do nowadays. (Found on page 1 “Gods for Everything”)

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?

They thought their world was surrounded by water; the sky was the edge of the waters. There was another world that the dead dwelled on, but it was also full of demons and other creatures. (Found on page 1 “A View of the World”)

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view

8 gods lived before creation. They lived in a time of darkness and nothingness. Atum, the creator god, came out of a mound. He then created a pair of male and female gods. Shu, who was the god of air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture, were parents of the Earth and Sky. Earth and Sky (Geb and Nut) then gave birth to Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. These nine gods and goddesses were the ‘Ennead’. (Found on page 2 “In the Beginning”)

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?

No, however, they were at one time close to monotheism. The god Amun was once thought to be a god who was almost universal, but he was later replaced by Aten as the superior god. (Found on page 2 “Polytheism and Monotheism”)

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.

The pharaoh was the highest priest, but he couldn’t possibly get to all the temples throughout Egypt. Back then, there was an Egyptian priest for every temple, much like how there is a Christian priest at one church / parish. There was also a hierarchy in ancient Egyptian times which relates to the least complicated Catholic hierarchy of : deacon (lowest), priest, bishop, cardinal, and pope (highest). (Found on page 3 “Priestly Duties”)

Melanie Ghering

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Herodotus said this because the Egyptians had a god for everything. There was a god for snake bites, a god for food, a god for everything. If anything happened it was because the “god” willed to happen. Also the Egyptians thought that any natural phenomena was because of the gods. Lastly animals could be associated with the gods.

2. What ideas the Egyptians had about the world?
Egyptians saw everything that we see today. Water, the earth, the sky. They may have seen the same things, but they had a different idea about them. For example, They thought the world was surrounded by water, that the sky was the edge of the eternal waters. They also believed that the sung god made a westward journey across the sky ( hence making it dark) and came back in the east ( hence making it light. They believed this because they did not have the science we have today, therefore they could not know that they earth is in orbit around the sun.

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
At the beginning there were 8 gods that existed in the eternal waters, but it was all dark and nothingness. Out of this black “sea” came a “mound”. From this mound came a creator named Atum. Atum them made a male (Shut) and a female(Tefnut). From these people came the start of the universe. Also from them came their offspring Geb and Nut, and from them Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, and Seth. They were known as the Ennead.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No, they weren’t. They had 100’s of gods that they worshipped. They didn’t just choose one. They did combine gods together to form and entity, but it still consisted of several gods. The closest time they ever got to being almost monotheistic was when they had a god named Aten( the sun-disk). They thought he was superior to the other gods, but there was still other gods.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
The Egyptians had many priests, some higher, some lower. The highest priest of all was the Pharaoh . He was supposed to do all of the duties, but since there were so many to do, they needed other priests. With Christianity, they are alike in some ways, and different in others. They are alike because there are many pastors throughout the world( not just one pastor can preach to everyone). They are different because there is not one superior priest.

-Sammy Mohney

Anónimo dijo...

1. Why did Greek Historian, Herodotus, say that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
He said that because for everything they did/had or everything that happened had a god/goddess. “Gods for Everything”.



2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They believed that everything had a reason for it and if they had to do it, they did it just to obey the gods/goddess. They were surrounded by water and they had a whole other world for their dead to mourn on.



3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.
There were eight gods which are Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephthys. Atum was the creator of the air and moisture god and goddess. They created Geb and Nut who are the earth and sky. They created Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. They all created a part of the Ennead or the first group of nine gods.



4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
They were almost there but they never got there so no. When I said they were almost there I meant that the almost had only on universal god, Atum.



5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Well, Egyptian priests were ranked kind of. The highest rank was the Pharaoh. It was kind of like the pope only that’s not really Christian. Christian priests don’t have ranks but some preach the same thing but others preach different things. They preach basically the same things differently.

-Jordan "Asian Boy" Scheller

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Because they believed that their was a god for everything even thought they’ve never seen any of these gods there is still on linked to everything whether it be something big as living or as small as a ant they had a god for it.(pg 1)

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They believed that their world was surrounded by water, the sky was thought to be the edge of the eternal waters (rep. by the goddess Nut), the earth ( rep. by the god Geb) was separated he air god Shu. On the other side of the of the land was the netherworld where the blessed dead as well as the devious creatures lived. To Egyptians the cycles of night and day were created by the sun god making a westward journey across the sky. After traveling under the earth into the land of darkness the sun god was reborn everyday in the east.(pg1)

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.

8 gods lived before creation they where thought to live in a time of darkness and nothingness. Atum(creator god) came out of a mound, then created a pair of male and female gods. Shu (god of air) and Tefnut (goddess of moisture) were parents of the Earth and Sky. Geb and Nu (earth and sky) then gave birth to Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. These nine gods and goddesses were then called ‘Ennead’. ( pg 2)


4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No because they had a god for just about everything and to be monotheists you have to believe in only one god which was the case for Egyptians because there was different gods for different cities so on and so forth.(pg 3)


5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Egyptian priest didn’t conduct rituals before a body of parishioners, they also didn’t offer personal counseling but did occasionally assist the needs and desires if individuals. Some where apparently knowledgeable in healing (as well as Christian pastor’s). Egyptian priest were also very knowledgeable in magic which isn’t true in Christian pastors because Christians don’t believe in magic.
-maki

Anónimo dijo...

sammie andrew and melonie i think you guys answered question 5 really good i think i left out a lot of basics, i must of skipped that part lolz i shoud of taken my time
-maki

Anónimo dijo...

andrew i dont agree with your number two the part about what they saw i agree with but after that it gets confusing i dont understand your answer i think that in your trying to put the answer in your own words you kind of lost yourself but other than that you got the concept down and and understood the question yous just kind of write your answer confusingly(<- if thats a word) but other than that you did awesome

Anónimo dijo...

maki did the comment to andrew about being confusing sry 4 forgetting my name

Unknown dijo...

Melanie;
I really like your answer for number five, and I think that it's very good; I agree with it a lot. (:

Sammy;
I think that you did very well overall with answering your questions! Good job!

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.


1. Because they had gods for everything (hundreds of different ones) and religion affected almost everything about their daily lives. (Page 1, “Gods for everything” section)

2. They thought that the weather was simply a god changing it to whatever he wanted, no natural phenomenon at all. The Egyptians also believed that their world was completely surrounded by water, the sky was supposedly the edge of that great watery expanse. (Page 1, “A view of the world” section)

3. They believed that eight gods were living “before” creation. Atum, who was the “creator god” created pairs of gods who started the process of the making of the universe. These first gods were called the “Ennead.” (Page 2, “In the beginning” section)

4. No but they were close to being monotheists. They seemed to think the Amun was the supreme god, great infinite and unknowable, a divine presence. (Page 2, “Polytheism and Monotheism” section)

5. The pharaoh was the “high priest” but they also had smaller priests for the other temples in Egypt because he could not be in all of them at once. The Pharaoh’s statues were in most or all of the temples in Egypt. (Page 3, “Priestly Duties” section)

-Duncan White

Anónimo dijo...

Jordan: I think your number 5 was really confusing, I think you should have mentioned something about there being "lesser" priests in the other temples also.

Andrew: I think that your number 2 was good but at the end was very, very confusing and didn't make a whole lot of sense. Other answers were good though.

- Duncan White

Anónimo dijo...

Mackenzie Campbell



1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?

Basically they had worshipped so many gods for everything and they even put two gods together to explain certain things. Everything they did was wrapped around religion so they didn’t need to explain it with science, the answers were already there and the answer happened to be the gods.

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?

The Egyptians thought that basically everything was surrounded by water instead of space like we think it is. The sky was the end of eternal waters, then earth separated by air. On the opposite side of the earth was like a parallel would, the netherworld, and it had the blessed dead, creatures, demons, and damned souls.

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.

There are several different beliefs on how we were first created, one of them starts out with Atum, the creater god. He created a pair of male and female gods, the first of the creations. They were the first couple, Shu, air, and Tefnut, moisture. They then became parents of Geb, earth, and Nut, sky, who became the parents of Osiris and Isis and then eventually Seth and Nephthys, and so on from there. Another version is that Ptah the crafts god created everything simply by thinking it, he just spoke their name and they appeared into reality. People were then created on Khnum’s potter wheel.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?

There are some scholars that suggest they worshiped one main god, but other then that there are many that they worshiped so… no.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.

In both priesthoods there are many around to fill up the churches/temples and give the rituals/Masses preformed. The Pharaoh was supposed to be the main priest and could be compared to the Pope.

Anónimo dijo...

Andrew,
I liked how you worded number 1. You explained such a little topic as a big discussion.



Duncan,
Your number 2 was confusing for me. If I wouldnt have read the article I would only think they though the sun and water were gods.


-Jordan "Asian Boy" Scheller

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?

It seems as if the lives of the Egyptians were based upon religion. The people had and excessive amount of gods. If anything natural occurred, it was believed to have happened because of a god. There were gods to represent almost everything (i.e.: like the sun, the moon, and the Nile River).
[Page 1, section “Gods for Everything’]

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They didn’t look at things in as much of scientific perspective as we do. They believed that the world was surrounded by water that goes on for quite some time and is then cut off by the skies at the edges. They also thought that night and day were made when the sun travels west along the sky, then goes under the earth (where darkness occurs), and is then risen again in the east.
[Page 1, section “A View of the World”]

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.

In the beginning only 8 gods existed. Then the creator god, Atum, was made. Atum created a male and female pair of gods. Then they produced children and it was the beginning of the universe.
[Page 2, section “In the Beginning”]

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?

No they were not monotheists, as we know they worshipped many gods. The closest that they really ever got to monotheism is when Amun got quite close to being a universal god. Plus, during the period known as the “Amarna” Egyptians worshipped Aten, who was believed to be greater than most other gods. But, no, the Egyptians were defiantly, Polytheistic.
[Page 2, section “Polytheism and Monotheism”

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.

Like Christian pastors, Egyptian priests held daily rituals in the temples. There is also one priest/pastor for each different temple. Depictions of the pharaoh were posted on the temple walls, much like there are images of Jesus or God on church walls in most religions of Christianity. In Christianity we also have different levels of priests or a hierarchy of priests. Lastly, in the Egyptian religion, the priest prepared meals for the god, much similar to when they prepare the body and blood of Christ for Christians in some religions today, such as Catholicism.
[Page 3, section “Priestly Duties”]
-Anna Roguska

Anónimo dijo...

melanie,
great job on #5. you used your former knownledge of christianity and the rankings of the priests to go over and behond the question asked.

andrew,
wonderful job going into fine detail on all the questions. plus you got all the answers down too and included background info from the reading, instead of just the answer.

-anna roguska

Anónimo dijo...

Anna:
I thought your answer to #5 was well thought out and very true. I agree all the way. I like the connection to Catholicism specifically.

Sammy:
I like your answer to #4. It goes in depth and I agree with it completely

Melanie Ghering

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"? The Egyptians were supposedly religious to excess because they worshipped so many gods and had many gods for just about everything.

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world? Egyptians thought that every day the sun died [sunset], and was reborn [sunrise].
3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
They believed that there were eight precreation gods: Atum, Su, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, and Isis, and Seth and Nephthys. Each one of these gods created different things. It is believed that from a mound, Atum emerged and then created the other gods and goddesses.
Another story of creationism is that Ptah spoke something’s name, and it was created by the ram headed god Khnum on a potter’s wheel.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists? Because there were so many gods, some Egyptians could choose to worship only one god. Mostly though, Egyptians worshiped multiple gods.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today. Egyptian priests and Christian pastors both organize the church. On the other hand, Egyptians did not conduct rituals before body of parishioners or offer personal counseling like Christian pastors.



- haley jacoby

Anónimo dijo...

sammy:
good explinations on all of them. very in depth and detailed answers.

andrew:
really detailed and complete.

duncan:
for number 5 you just talk about Egyptian priests and you don't actually compare them to christian pastors



- haley jacoby

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Herodotus said this because basically everything Egyptians did revoloved around religion, and multiple gods. They explained natural phenomenons (such as weather) by including the gods.

2. What ideas did the Egyptians have about the world?
Egyptians saw the normal features of the world, things like the sky, ground, etc. But they saw it from another point of view: they believed all of Egypt was surrounded by water, and the natural resources were separated by gods.

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
There were 8 gods that lived in the vast waters of darkeness and depth. A primeval mound (which appeared from a void) contained the god Atum, who created man/woman, thus creating the universe.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
Scholars believe that Egyptians possibly worshipped a supreme god amongst other gods. So yes, there's a possibility they were monotheists.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
An Egyptian priest knew about healing/magic, and sometimes assisted the needs of citizens. A Christian pastor baptizes and offers counseling to those who need it.

-Maria Sheeter

bill dijo...

1. The believed Egyptian people were religious to excess because they believed that a god had to do with everything in life. There was a god representing everything in life.

2. The Egyptians thought that the earth was surrounded by water. The sky was thought to be the edge of eternal waters, represented by the goddess nut, they believed that the day and night was represented by the god Geb making a journey around the earth.

3. Before creation 8 gods existed in the external waters of Nun in a time of darkness and nothingness.
Out of his void appeared a primeval mound, fro which emerged a creator god, Atum. Atum then proceeded to create a male and female pair of gods who started the process of the formation of the known universe. The first couple Shu represented air, Tefnut representing moisture, became the parents of Geb the earth and nut the sky. These first nine early gods are known as Ennead.

4. No, they believed in many and worshiped many gods.

5. Pharaohs were supposed conduct daily temple rituals. And represent through many statues. The priest bathed, clothed, and otherwise prepared and renewed the image of the god and performed rituals to ensure a hospitable home for the god. Then left the god a tasty meal.

Anónimo dijo...

Anna,
i really liked how you answered #5, you used what you learned from the book and also incorporated other things you knew already, good job

Haley,
I agree with you on all of your answers, especially with #2, you went really in depth and provided a lot of info. :)

- Sammy Mohney

Anónimo dijo...

Andrew

I thought your answers were well detailed and explained everything perfectly and most of your answers have the same idea as my own.

Melanie

I thought that your answers were very specific and match my own and Andrew's. So we all must be in the right spot. I agree with you on every answer.

From
Mackenzie

Anónimo dijo...

1. Why did Greek Historian, Herodotus, say that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?

The great historian Herodotus said that because the Greeks had hundreds of gods for everything the Greeks had. [Page 1]

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?

First of all the Egyptians saw the same things we see like the stars, moon, sun. They believed that their world was surrounded by water. They thought the sky was the edge of eternal waters; the earth was separated by air. They thought that on the opposite of the earth there was a netherworld that was home of dead, but was full of demons, devious creatures and dammed souls. [Page 1]

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.

That there were eight gods that existed in the eternal waters of nun. The eight gods represented various abstract concepts of this boundless watery void. There were eight gods which are Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephthys. Atum was the creator of the air and moisture god and goddess. They created Geb and Nut who are the earth and sky. They created Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. They all created a part of the Ennead or the first group of nine gods. [Page 2]



4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?

Well the Egyptians were about to be monotheists, because the god atum almost became a universal god incorporating the other gods, but it wasn’t totally monotheists so I say no. [Page 2]

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Well, Egyptian priests were ranked kind of. The highest rank was the Pharaoh who had to service the gods. . Christian priests don’t have ranks and baptize people and help those in need. [Page 3]
yolanda ramos

Anónimo dijo...

Becca Parr

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
There was a god linked to or representative of nearly everything in the world, from the physical facets of nature to abstract notions of the human condition.

2. What ideas the Egyptians had about the world?
The Egyptians believed their world was surrounded by water. The sky was thought to be the edge of the eternal waters. The earth was separated by the air god Shu. On the opposite of the earth was thought to be their home of the dead.

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
Before creation eight gods existed and represented various abstract concepts of this boundless watery void. A new creator god, Atum, made a male and female pair of gods who started the process of the universe.
Another later version of the creation story involves Ptah, a god associated with crafts. The creator thought of ideas and when Ptah spoke their name they were converted into reality, and people came from Khnum on his potters wheel.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
The closest the Egyptians ever got to monotheism was when they worshiped Amun who was thought to almost be a universal god, incorporating all of the other gods.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Egyptian priests cannot be associated with Christian Pastors. The Egyptians didn’t conduct rituals before a body of parishioners, and they didn’t offer personal counseling.

Anónimo dijo...

Marika,
I liked your answer for number four, but on page three they said the Egyptians did believe the god Amun was almost a universal god and that was as close to monotheism as they got.

Mackenzie,
Good job on number five, i like it, but Egyptian priests didn't conduct rituals before a body of parishioners, and they didn't offer personal counseling either. So i don't think Egyptian priests could be associated together.

-Becca Parr

Unknown dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"? Because all of there people were religious and everything had to do with religion.
2. What ideas did Egyptians have about the world? That they were surrounded by water and there were no other countries by them. They also thought that the earth did not revolve around the sun normal.
3. Explain creationism from an Egyptian point of view? They believed that there were 8 gods in the eternal waters of nun and they thought it was all nothingness until Atum came and started to create male and female body parts of gods.
4.Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No because when there was nothing they always had a ruler of all the other gods that where in the eternal waters.
5. Compare Egyptian priests to Christian pastors today. Egyptian priests were the only ones who could talk to gods and they where rich and where praised to but Christian pastors today say that everyone can speak to god and he listens to everyone's prayers and makes them come true.

Unknown dijo...

Sammy I agree with your statement about how they are not superior priests in number 5. I also agree that you said that they didn't just have one god they had hundreds. Ben nota. comments.

Anónimo dijo...

To Andrew
I like how you put a lot of information for ? 5, you really went into it

To Melanie
For ? 4 i didn't know that Amun was later replaced by Aten as the superior god. nice fact

From Yolanda Ramos

Anónimo dijo...

To Andrew
I like how you put a lot of information for ? 5, you really went into it

To Melanie
For ? 4 i didn't know that Amun was later replaced by Aten as the superior god. nice fact

From Yolanda Ramos

Anónimo dijo...

1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
He said this because the Egyptians we one of the most religious people, they had gods for anything and everything, ranging from natural occurrences to personal life.
(pg.1)

2. What ideas did the Egyptians have about the world?
They thought that the world was surrounded by water, they sky was the edge of the eternal waters (Nut) the Earth (Geb) was separated by Air (Shu). They thought that the other side of the world (Duat) was home to blessed dead, devious creatures, demons, etc. They believed cycles of night were created by the sun god making a westward journey across they sky. When the sun comes up, it is known as a rebirth by the goddess Nut. They had 2 major "theories" on how the world was created and how man was created:
1. There were 8 gods in the middle of nothingness, creator god named Atum, who created a boy and a girl and from there they continued onto the formation the world, "humans" 1st couple Shu &Tefnut became parents of Nut and Geb who than made Orisis, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. These 8 god known as Ennead.
2. Ptah, god of crafts. Anything he said was converted to reality, and he made people from his potter wheel.
(pg.2)

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
Creationism is the thought that everything was created from "nothingness" by God (Book of Genesis) but from an Egyptian's point of view that would be by many gods. Sometimes scholars think that there could have been on "supreme" god ruling over the others. There are many different theories on how the world was created but they all mention different gods that the Egyptians worshipped (not the God in Christianity)
(pg. 2)

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
Not really, because they have always worshipped more than one god, but in some cases they would "prefer" one god over the all others. In the New Kingdom temples were built for Amun, a god they thought to be superior.
(pg. 2)

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Egyptian priest were completely devoted to their god/s, much like a pastor, but an Egyptian priest would take it to the extreme. Pastors don't exactly bath, clothe, and prepare meals for their god/s. Also in Egypt the leader of the land (pharaoh) was known as the high priest, but that is not the same here.
Pastor usually had one god.
(pg. 3)

Anónimo dijo...

the one right above is
Eskira Kahsay's

Anónimo dijo...

To Andrew

Ilike how you explained number 4, it was easy to understand and written very well.

But, on number 2 don't forget to mention that they also thought that the sun came up because the sun god was making a westward journey across the sky.

-Eskira Kahsay

Anónimo dijo...

To Yolanda R.

I liked how you explained your questions, they were easy to follow.

But on number 2 you could also go into more detail and explain their "theories" on how the world/humans were created.

-Eskira Kahsay

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1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
He said this because he realized that the Egyptians were the most religious society relying on their gods for everything and pretty much their whole lives were centered around religion.

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They thought that the entire world was just surrounded by water, the sky was the edge of the water, and that the earth was separated from the air.

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
Creationism from an Egyptian’s point of view is that in the beginning the world was nothing but water. There were eight gods that paired up and made new gods by reproducing. They believed that people came from Kahnum, and that he created humans on a potter’s wheel.

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
Not exactly. There is a belief that there is a most powerful god called Amun that was the universal god incorporating all of the other gods. Its close but not all the way.

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
The Egyptian priest would be the Pharaoh, and he would be the one to make sure that the gods are pleased with everyone. His primary duties were to consult the gods and make sure all is in order in the universe. The pharaoh is sometimes even considered to be the son of a god or a god himself.
On the other hand, Christian pastors don’t want to be known as the son of a god or definitely god himself. They are more focused on teaching the word of God to everyone and serving others instead of themselves being served by other people.
-Alejandro Potter

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Eskira,

good job on being really descriptive and precise with your answers. I was able to understand what you were talking about.

You could have made them a little bit shorter though...

-Alejandro Potter

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Melanie,
Good job on question number 5. You did a nice job comparing the similarities between Egyptian priests and Christian priests. I never thought of doing that.

One thing i could say though is that you could have put more differences to balance your answer out a little more.

-Alejandro Potter

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1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Because the Egyptians had to have a god for every little thing and everything they did was based on or had to do with religion.
2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They thought that they were only surrounded by water and that they sky was the edge of eternal waters. They also did not know that the earth revolved around the sun in a regular orbit. They believed that the night and day were a cycle created by the sun god.
3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
That there were eight precreation gods that existed in the eternal waters of Nun in the time of darkness and nothingness. Then Atum came and male and female pairs of gods who started the process of making the know known universe.
4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No, because ever since the beginning the Egyptians have always had many, many gods.
5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Well, one thing you could say is different is that Egyptian priests believed that they were the only ones who could talk to gods but Christian pastors believe that everyone can. Also, the Egyptian priests didn’t do rituals before a body of parishioners or offer personal counseling.

- Taylor Ferguson

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Ben:
I really like the way you answered the questions. very short and simple. Great job!!! :)

- Taylor Ferguson

Andrew:
Also liked the way you answered the questions. full of detail and would probably make a good study guild if we had a quiz! good job

- Taylor Ferguson

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1. Why did Greek Historian, Herodotus, say that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Because the Egyptians had a god/goddess for basically everything they did in their lives. Everything that happened in their lives happened because of the gods.



2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
They believed that the earth was surrounded by water and that the sky was the edge of the water, and that demons and damned souls lived on another planet with the dead.



3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.
At the beginning there were 8 gods that existed in the eternal waters, which was basically black and nothingness really. Out of this black nothingness the earth as we know it emerged. From this mound came a creator named Atum. Atum made a man (Shu) and a woman(Tefnut). From these two people came the start of the universe. Shu and Tefnut had two children; Geb and Nut, and they had Osiris, Isis, Nephthys, and Seth. They all were called the Ennead.



4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No, they had a supreme god named amun, but he was basically overruled or replaced by aten, who was superior to all other gods.



5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
The pharaoh was the highest ranking priest, and he had to conduct all the daily rituals in the temple. and just like the pope i suppose you could say [even though he's catholic, not christian] the pharaoh wouldn't be able to visit every temple in egypt, so there was a heirarchy of priests in every temple.

-Sarah Harrington

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Andrew:
i like how you answered number 1 you made a really clear answer and it was really easy to understand

Anna:
i like all your answers they're all well written

-Sarah Harrington

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1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?

Herodotus said that because the Egyptians didn’t need to prove anything with evidence of the human form they had a god for everything to explain it. They had faith and didn’t need proof like most people need scientific proof today. (Found on page 1 “Gods for Everything”)

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?

They thought their world was surrounded by water, and the sky was the edge of the waters. And there was another world for the dead. (Found on page 1 “A View of the World”)

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view

8 gods lived before the world was created. Atum, the creator god, came out of a mound. He then created a pair of male and female gods. Shu, who was the god of air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture, were parents of the Earth and Sky. Earth and Sky (Geb and Nut) then gave birth to Osiris, Isis, Seth, and Nephthys. (Found on page 2 “In the Beginning”)

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?

No, all though , they were at one time close to monotheism. The god Amun was once thought to be a god who was almost universal, but he was replaced by Aten as the superior god. (Found on page 2 “Polytheism and Monotheism”)

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.

The pharaoh was the highest priest, but he wasn’t able to go to all the temples in Egypt. Back then, there was a Egyptian priest for every temple. (Found on page 3 “Priestly Duties”)


- Allison Linner

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Andrew:
i thoguht your answers made alot of sense and you really put effort into your work.

Melanie:
I also thought your anwsers were very good they god straigt to the point of the question

- Allison Linner

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1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Greek Historian Herodotus said this because the Egyptians lived there life according to the gods. Everything they did they did for a reason for the gods. Also they worshiped the gods much more then any other race. They had gods for every little, simple thing.
(answers found under “Gods for Everything“)

2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
The ideas the Egyptians had bout the world is that they believed that basically their world was surrounded by water. The sky was thought to be the edge of the eternal waters (represented by the goddess Nut), and that the Earth (represented by the god Geb) was separated by the air god Shu. On the opposite of the Earth was a parallel land of sorts, a netherworld known as the Duat. This was home not only to the blessed dead, but was full of devious creatures, demons, and damned souls as well.
(answers found under “A view of the World“)

3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view.
Creationism from an Egyptian’s point of view is involved with their gods. One story is when the god Ptah, a god associated with crafts, listened to the ideas of things that were conceived by the creator. So Ptah spoke their names and they were converted into reality. The ram-headed god Khnum created people on a potter’s wheel.
(answers found under “In the beginning“)

4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
No they were not monotheists because they worshiped more then one god. But at some points they came close to worshiping only one god. Like Amun who was at once perceived as almost a universal god in corporating all of the other gods. Also during the Amarna period, they worshiped the sun-disk Aten who was promoted as superior to all other gods.
(answers found under “Polytheism and Monotheism”)

5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Egyptian priests differ from the Christian pastors today by they didn’t conduct rituals before a body of parishioners and they also did not offer personal counseling. They are in some way the same by some Egyptian priests were knowledgeable in healing and magic so they were able to occasionally help the needs and desires of people.
(answers found under “A couple of B…..”)

-Sarah Carlson

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1.Why did Greek Historian Herodotus said that Egyptians were "religious to excess"?
Because the Greeks had a god for basically everything, there seems to have been a god linked to or representative of nearly everything in the world, from physical facets of nature to abstract notions of the human condition.
2. What ideas the Egyptians had bout the world?
The Egyptians believed that their world was basically surrounded by water, the sky was thought to be the edge of the eternal water, the earth was separated by the air God Shu, on the opposite of the earth was a parallel land of sorts, a netherworld known as Duat.
3. Explain Creationism from an Egyptian's point of view
There were eight precreation gods represented by various abstract concepts of this boundless watery void, out of this void appeared a primeval mound, from which emerged a creator god by the name of Atum, he then proceeded to create a male and female pair of gods who started the process of the formation of the known universe.
4. Where Egyptians ever monotheists?
Amun who was considered a great, infinite, and unknowable divine presence, and he came to be perceived as almost a universal god incorporating all of the other gods might be as close to monotheism as the Egyptians ever got.
5. Compare an Egyptian priest to Christian pastors today.
Egyptian priests cannot be equated with Christian pastors or Jewish rabbis. They didn’t conduct rituals before a body of parishioners, nor did they offer personal counseling. Some types of priests were apparently knowledgeable in healing and magic, however, and were thus able to occasionally assist the needs and desire of individuals.

-Fremio Encarnacion

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Andrew:
Your answers are very good I like them, keep up the good work.

Melanie:
I like your answer for number five, I think I could've put in some more information into my answer.

-Fremio Encarnacion

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Haley Jacoby:
I liked how you answered number 4. But you could of added the gods Amun and sun-disk Aten who they worshiped at points as their "surpreme" god.

Andrew:
I liked all your answers they were very well written and you explained them good.

-Sarah Carlson

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becca,
yes true the arcticle does say that but the question says "Where Egyptians EVER monotheists?"and as i see it the answer is no becasue the article says thats as close as they ever came menaing they never actually became monotheists but thats just how i saw the question

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maki wrote the one to becca sry i forgot my name

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Jordan-
When you talked about the Egyptian priests and Christian pastors, you had the main idea but weren't very detailed when talking about the whole thing.

Alejandro-
On question #2, your answer was kind of broad. I wouldn't have understood you if you were telling me in person.

-Maria Sheeter

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When maki said for question number 4 when she said the Egyptians were not monothiests i agree because as she previously stated there were gods for practically everything so you cant be a monotheists when you believe in multiple gods.

-Niara